From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

I'm David Remnick, and welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour.

Ronan Farrow shared a Pulitzer Prize for his reporting for The New Yorker on Harvey Weinstein.

His work since then has fueled the Me Too movement with

revelation after revelation of misconduct by some very powerful men, particularly in the media.

This reporting has been for so many wrenching and enraging to read. But there's reason to hope

that Pharaoh's reporting is helping to change the status quo in some very real ways.

His book, Catch and Kill, which was just published, has caused an uproar.

Among other things, the book details how Harvey Weinstein hired a mysterious organization called Black Cube to try to protect himself.

So, Ronan, what is Black Cube?

Black Cube sounds like something in the worst kind of spy novel or a spy movie you've ever

seen, but it's a real thing.

Who were they?

And why were they hired to follow you?

Black Cube is an Israeli private intelligence firm with very close and very blurry ties to the current active Mossad and Israeli military and other factions of the Israeli government.

They do a lot of business with the Israeli government, but they are a private entity staffed by what they describe as elite operatives skilled in undercover operations in deception in using false identities and front companies.

And to your point about it, sounding like it's from some kind of a hard-boiled spy thriller, you know, when I presented the documentation showing that this had really happened, that there was an

international espionage operation around reporters and alleged victims of Harvey Weinstein,

if I recall your reaction and that about it. I thought you were out of your mind. I thought you

were getting a little too tired, maybe a little delusional. I had the same thought.

I mean, who could believe such a thing?

Yeah, and by the way, it's a private business, am I right?

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