From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

In 2017, the New York Times and the New Yorker broke stories revealing Harvey Weinstein's

years of criminal conduct. Since then, I've done several Me Too exposés of my own in The Hollywood

Reporter. Five years into the movement, the New Yorkers Ronan Farrow and I talk about

how the moment first came to be and how we as journalists cope with handling accounts of alleged

assault and abuse. Most of the reporters I know don't want to be the story, and that's especially

true if you're working on stories where sources are dealing with really acute trauma.

You know, you don't want to compare yourself as an observer looking in, but we do get drawn into

the emotional and practical blast radius.

Ronan Farrow and I also discuss our standards for deciding which stories to pursue and whether the industry has

seen enough change after five years of Me Too. But first we banter. Stick around. It's the business

from KCRW.

I am joined by my partner in banter Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt.

Hi there. Welcome back. Thank you. I had a nice break. So, meanwhile, Netflix had a much

anticipated their version of an earnings call where they like one analyst interview their

executives, which I think is not the normal thing. Usually it's like a round robin of analysts,

but they do it their way. And they have

executed a 180 pivot. For a long time, they were all about our subscriber growth, our subscriber

growth. Now that they've been having trouble with it, although they did add a couple million

plus subscribers. Subscriber growth, however, is no longer the thing.

The thing is revenue and profit, which they do have at last.

Subscriber growth was great when they didn't, but now that they do, it's all about subscriber

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