Hello and welcome to the John Mark Komit teachings podcast. My name is Yinka Darsin and I'm your host. Each week we feature teachings by John Mark or other voices in the formation space. It's great to have you with us. Today we wanted to share a conversation between John Mark and Father Ronald Roheiser.

Father Roheiser is a speaker, a minister and writer of several amazing books, many of which

are mentioned in the conversation here. In this episode, John Mark and Father Roelheiser have an

expansive conversation about the various stages of life and the spiritual journey, offering wisdom

for how to navigate them with grace and fulfill the call of God at each point along the way.

Here's the conversation.

Father Rollheiser, good evening.

I'm happy to be here.

This has been such a joy to be with you on retreat in your

neck of the woods here in San Antonio. Thank you for your time. You know, they say never meet your

heroes. So I keep bracing for you to say or do something to devastate my soul. But so far,

so good. Hopefully it won't be in the next hour. At least wait until tomorrow after we're done here, right? But no, it has been such a joy.

I experience you exactly as I would imagine after so many years of reading your work. And I'm so

grateful for your life and for your writing, which has played such a key role in my own life and so many others.

So thank you.

It's really a joy to have a conversation with you tonight.

Thank you.

Thanks.

That's quite a compliment.

Let's just start off.

Let's go for the jugular.

Let's just start off at the deep end of the pool.

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