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Wicked Words - A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson

Ron Smith: No One is Perfect

Wicked Words - A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson

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True Crime

4.8 • 7.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Thirty years before the OJ Simpson trial, a different murder case captured the attention of the country. When a successful Florida businessman is brutally killed in the 1960s, his wife and her nephew become suspects. Their disturbing relationship makes headlines. Author Ron Smith tells me about his book: No One is Perfect.  Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/4gF2K18   See more information on my books: katewinklerdawson.com   Follow me on social: @tenfoldmore (Twitter) / @wickedwordspod (Facebook) / @tenfoldmorewicked (Instagram)   2025 All Rights Reserved  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is exactly right.

0:05.9

Hey, lovely listeners. My newest historical true crime book is now available. It's called

0:11.8

The Sinners All Bough, one murder, two authors, and the real Hester Pren. It's the real

0:17.6

murder case that became the inspiration for Nathaniel Hawthorne's The Scarlet Letter.

0:22.9

I'm re-investigating the case alongside the nation's first true crime author, a woman who died 150 years ago.

0:31.1

The sinner's all bow is available now wherever you buy books.

0:35.7

This story contains adult content and language.

0:38.6

Listener discretion is advised.

0:46.8

They made fun of her at every turn.

0:49.1

She was very unhappy about that.

0:51.0

That kind of led to her rebelling in a way later on that, okay, if you're not

0:55.3

going to accept me, I'm going to scandalize you women at every turn if I can.

1:05.4

I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, a nonfiction author and journalism professor in Austin, Texas.

1:13.0

I'm also the co-host of the podcast Buried Bones on Exactly Right. And throughout my career, research for my many audio and book projects

1:19.6

has taken me around the world. On Wicked Words, I sit down with the people I've met along the way,

1:25.7

amazing writers, journalists, filmmakers, and

1:28.5

podcasters who have investigated and reported on notorious true crime cases. This is about the

1:34.7

choices writers make, both good and bad, and it's a deep dive into the unpublished details

1:40.9

behind their stories. 30 years before the O.J. Simpson trial, a different murder case captured the attention

1:49.2

of the country. When a successful Florida businessman is brutally killed in the 1960s, his wife

1:55.9

and her nephew become suspects, and their disturbing relationship makes headlines. Author Ron Smith tells me

2:03.4

about his book, No One is Perfect. Let's talk about this time period. We are in 1964, Florida.

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