Continue listening for part two with Dr. Joshua Matsu, Romans 7 through 16.

Fantastic, Josh. Let's keep going through chapter 8. What are we looking at next?

Well, we've talked about being joint heirs with Christ in chapter 8 verse 17,

but I want to kind of focus on a part that doesn't get emphasized much,

which is the last part after the semicolon. So, verse 17 and Romans 8,

if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together,

it says that salvation is a joint experience, and I remember sitting in the temple

hearing something similar to that in an endowment session and thinking,

why would the Lord want me to be connected with him?

In being able to receive the salvation, he's done the work.

I'm kind of writing his coattails, but one of the things that we see throughout

the New Testament are these different models of explaining what the atonement is.

So, you have the redemption model, which is that we need to be bought back by the atonement of Jesus Christ.

You have the substitution model where Jesus took all of our sins and experienced the consequences of them,

and so he substituted himself for us. You have the expiation model,

which is borrowing from the Old Testament sacrifices and the idea of a sacrifice covering our sins.

That word, keep poor, to cover, that's connected with the atonement.

We have the reconciliation model, which is the idea that the atonement reconciles a strange people us with God,

but a model that we don't talk a lot about is here in verse 17,

which is the participation model of salvation, is that we actually participate in that salvation,

and it's not that we do anything that Christ couldn't do, it's that we participate,

and I love the words in Jesus Christ in the world of the New Testament,

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