Continue listening for part two, Dr. Adam Miller, Romans, chapters one through six.

Adam sometimes I hear people in classes talk about justification and sanctification and other big sounding words,

but I like that we're saying justification, putting things right.

Sanctification I think would say making us holy.

That's a fair way to put it as we try to just bewildering array of terms or whatever you put out.

Yeah, I think that's good.

Sometimes in contemporary discourse, we like to make strong distinctions between sanctification and justification.

I don't see a strong distinction between those terms in the context of the New Testament itself,

or like as Latter-day Saints, we like to make a strong distinction between salvation and exaltation.

That can be useful, but I don't find that distinction at work in the scriptures.

If we try to read that back into the scriptures, I think that's often not very helpful,

even if it's a useful distinction for us to make, in some cases, the same kind of story here, I think, with that.

I want to read you both a comment made by Elder Bruce Hafein, April 2004, General Conference.

The talk is called the Atonement All For All, as he's given the talk, he quotes an Australian Convert.

This Australian Convert says, my past life was a wilderness of weeds with hardly a flower strewn among them.

But now the weeds have vanished and flowers spring up in their place.

And then Elder Hafein comments, we grow in two ways, removing negative weeds and cultivating positive flowers.

The Savior's grace blesses both parts. He says, we're not paying a debt.

Our purpose is to become celestial.

So we clear our heartland, we continually plant weed and nourish the seeds of divine qualities.

Our sweat and discipline stretch us, and the tree of life can take root in our heart garden,

bearing fruit so sweet that it lightens all our burdens through the joy of his son.

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