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WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

Roland Fryer Says the Educational Tragedy Is 'We Already Know What Works'

WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

The Wall Street Journal

Society & Culture, News

42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Nearly half of 12th-graders in the U.S. test "below basic" in math, and Harvard professor of economics Roland Fryer says it's no mystery how to reverse the trend. What's missing is leadership. He explains his research on "five tenets" of successful schools, how they worked in Houston, his view of "equitable" grading, and why economic thinking sheds light on all sorts of questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Potomac Watch.

0:23.6

As national exams show American school children falling further behind, what if the failure

0:29.1

isn't that we don't know how to teach reading, writing, and especially arithmetic, but that the

0:34.0

powers that be refused to do what works? That's the argument of our special guests today.

0:38.9

Welcome, I'm Kyle Peterson with the Wall Street Journal.

0:42.1

We're delighted to be joined by Roland Fryer, a professor of economics at Harvard,

0:47.2

a founder of Equal Opportunity Ventures, and a WSJ contributor,

0:51.8

among other distinguished hats that he wears.

0:54.8

Our topic today is his latest column in the journal under the headline,

0:59.0

The Economics of Education Reform.

1:02.1

It was well-timed, posted right as the latest national standardized tests

1:06.4

showed that last year, 45% of 12th graders performed to be low basic in math.

1:12.9

32% were below basic in reading.

1:15.4

And remember, these are 12th graders, seniors, preparing to go out into the world of college

1:20.2

or the workplace.

1:21.5

But here is what you write, Professor Fryer, quote,

1:24.7

the nation is facing the largest educational crisis in a generation, and that isn't

1:29.8

even the real tragedy. The tragedy is that we already know what works, unquote. So welcome and to begin,

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