Roger Parloff on a Potential Problem for the Justice Department’s Jan. 6 Prosecutions
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🗓️ 26 October 2023
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals last week faintly endorsed the Justice Department’s reading of a critical felony charge, “corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding,” which the department has relied on to prosecute at least 317 individuals for their alleged roles in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. In the case, United States v. Thomas Robertson, the court affirmed the Justice Department’s conception of the definition of “corruptly,” as stated in the charge. Robertson followed another D.C. Circuit ruling in April, United States v. Fischer, which upheld the charge even more fragilely.
Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff detailed the court’s Robertson decision on Lawfare. Lawfare Research Fellow Matt Gluck sat down with Parloff to discuss Robertson, Fischer, and what it would mean for the Justice Department if its interpretation of the corrupt obstruction statute is ultimately rejected.
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| 0:29.9 | The Biggest Catastrophe for |
| 0:55.6 | the DOJ would be if Fisher is overruled or reversed and Judge Katzis is ruling or Judge |
| 1:08.4 | Nichols ruling, that was the original ruling is adopted. The whole subsection almost vanishes, |
| 1:18.0 | and becomes just a slightly broader version of the first subsection, which is about |
| 1:25.6 | evidence destruction, evidence foliation, evidence fooling around with evidence, tampering. |
| 1:33.7 | And so in that case, at least 317 cases, January 6th cases, probably you have to drop |
| 1:43.7 | that count. |
| 1:45.8 | I'm Matt Gluck, Research Fellow at LawFair, and this is the LawFair podcast, October 26th, |
| 1:51.2 | 2023. The DC Circuit Court of Appeals last week faintly endorsed the Justice Department's |
| 1:56.4 | reading of a critical felony charge, corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding, which |
| 2:01.0 | the department has relied on to prosecute at least 317 individuals for their alleged |
| 2:05.9 | roles in the January 6th Capitol riot. In the case, United States versus Thomas Robertson, |
| 2:11.5 | the Court affirmed the Justice Department's conception of the definition of corruptly, |
| 2:15.8 | as stated in the charge. Robertson followed another DC Circuit ruling in April, United |
| 2:20.4 | States versus Fisher, which upheld the charge even more fragile. LawFair senior editor |
| 2:25.0 | Roger Parloff detailed the Court's Robertson decision on LawFair. I sat down with Parloff |
| 2:30.2 | to discuss Robertson, Fisher, and what it would mean for the Justice Department if its |
| 2:34.1 | interpretation of the corrupt obstruction statute is ultimately rejected. It's the LawFair |
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