Hello and welcome to the scriptures or real podcast. This is the podcast where we talk about

elements of the scriptures that have become real to us in some way because we believe that

helps us draw more power

out of them and we need that help these days. As President Nelson has said that it's a time

of great trials but also a time where we'll see the power of God. I'm your host, Kerry

Mealstein, and I'm so happy to have with me as a guest today, my dear friend and fellow ward member,

I'm Roger Hoffman. So let me tell you a little bit about Roger. I'll let him tell you more because

he knows more about him than I do. But Roger, I'll first of all say just an incredible, wonderful man.

You may remember his wife, Melanie, was actually our guest last year as we, for the Easter episode, where we talked about the song,

Gessemonee. And so Roger and Melanie both composed. Roger is a composer and musician. He plays the

piano wonderfully. He just does so many things. He's composed many songs, and I think now has his own recording studio where he helps other people produce music as well. And you will know him best, and the reason we're having him on now, we're doing the sermon on the Mount Matthew 5 through 7 and in there in chapter 6 verse 28 is the verse

consider the lilies of the fields and Roger is the one who composed that song and I mean it's a song

I think most members of the church know it's been sung beautifully by the the what was then called I

guess the tabernacle choir and has been sung by them a few times, I think. It's a moving, wonderful song, and so we're just here to hear a little bit more from Roger. So welcome, Roger. Thank you so much, Kerry. Yeah, please tell us more about yourself. I'm sorry, okay. I was going to try to say, it's nice to see you not sitting on a stand as our bishop.

Yeah, this is a little less formal, and then that's nice.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, so much to tell.

I was born in Vermont, December 12th, and I think Joseph Smith birthday was the fifth. The fifth, I think, yeah.

So, and he was born. But I think you were a couple years later. Fifth, I think, yeah. So, and he was born.

But I think you were a couple years later than him, I think, a few.

Just a couple.

Yeah, yeah.

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