It's very much, um, it's a scene Illuminati. Yeah, well put. Wow, it's okay. So anyway, I'll leave it at that. I could go on.

So we put the word out to our fans. Yeah, that's true. Or listeners said, who you guys want to see? We said, anyway,

you know, sky's the limit. Number one answer. Rodney Mullins. Yeah. And then look what you did. Here he is. I didn't do it. But here's the thing. Welcome, Rodney.

Thanks. Welcome. Super stoked to be here. Super good to see you, man. We got Wolf. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Are we still going with Mott? Can we? It's funny. I got good friends. It's still like when they said you emails, you know, but yeah, it sticks. Yeah.

It sticks. You don't seem that excited about it. You got to talk on the mark. Oh, yeah. Christian did the same thing. Yeah. Oh, you had Christian. Yeah.

Christian. Christos the top top top picks were you and Christian. And then obviously bones were going to follow us. But, um, we got Christian here.

Christians was to be insane. I don't want to take it on. He was here. He was he was the last guest. Yeah. He was fun. Now you're here. How many have you done? How many shows? 20. No, 15, 20. Wow.

Over 20. Okay. Then yeah, something like that. Right on. It's a blur. I'm sick side to be here. It's one of those jobs like skateboarding where it's not really a job. But it's a job. So it's like, oh, I've got to go. I want to go.

Yeah. Like usually we skate. Yeah. So I usually skate with him by myself like me and him skateboard back in the rep. Yeah. And yeah, and I'm like, I would pay money to do this. Like in this, I get

apparently we get paid to do this. I know. We're not sure yet. Yeah. People like it. That's that's my main objective. We get good feedback. And that's what matters. Yeah.

And you're listening. And we're here. So we're here with Ronnie Mullen. It's so exciting. Um, I don't even know where to begin. I do. Uh, okay.

Because you told me he, when he said that you were going to be on the show, I was like, awesome. And then he said, yeah, we're going to have to do it late because he goes out at midnight and skateboards by himself. Yeah.

Until five in the morning, every day, every night. I'm sorry. Now, quite as long as you should get out about one, about one. And then come back around 334. See, I do a lot of boxing these days. And I made an analogy at the gym today.

I started to talk to Rodney. And I can't stop telling people that story because I think that's so fucking hard core. And so everybody that tries and trains and all the athletes I've known in the world, all the stars that I haven't met their work ethic is insane.

But I don't think Canelo Elvarez is at the boxing gym at one in the morning until five every day by himself. He like, so it goes to sleep. You, you just go.

It's just that time. Well, just I mean, those guys, those guys, they're all day, right? But night times for me, man. That's, that's always been and by yourself. Yeah. Yeah. That's one of the reasons I go so late, you know.

Some about the rhythm of the night, but it's also, um, yeah, some about it. Bring something out of me. Yeah. So if anybody, if you recognize, if you had a friend that was out there, and then he was like, oh, can I tag along?

You'd be like, man, I'd really rather you didn't a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Is that always you never skating with other people, right? No. I mean, if I, like, if I were to see someone, yeah, go skate, mess around. Yeah, that's cool for a night or two. But when it comes down to the substance of what carries you through.

The love of what you do now, it's got to be so low at night. And just, and you like just the peace, like in your own mind. I'm not sure if it's peace. It's a different version of peace.

And which I'd like to hear more about you. I mean, the transition from skating to fighting. Well, when you get a podcast, I'll be on it.

We're interviewing you, dude. Trust me. I've covered my life a couple of times. We have covered that extensively here. Everybody, this thing's like, oh, man, don't make it say shit again.

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