You know, we're writing about all these reasons to express herself creatively and, um, and, you know, and we finished the book and I thought, God damn why am I not doing it?

So that was the start, you know, and I, um, I started not taking on freelance work and I started just saying no to a lot of things actually in order to give myself the psychic and chronological time to write.

To write a poetry and I started taking workshops and classes and submitting and, you know, just taking myself seriously.

And, um, it's snowballed because once you do that, it's a self-fulfilling positive prophecy.

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Robin, welcome to the unmistakable creative.

Thank you. It's really great to be here after, um, our collaborations of the past. This is the first time I've been on your podcast.

Yeah, it is my absolute pleasure to have you here.

You know, it's funny. I have referenced your work that you did with me so many times and I realized people get offended when I give them feedback.

I was like, you don't understand. I learned to give feedback from a woman who doesn't sugarcoat shit.

She has like no capability of sugarcoding and, you know, I realized it was like, well, most people aren't thick skinned enough to take that, but we'll get into all of that.

You have a no book out which we will talk about.

But I wanted to start by asking you, what is one of the most important things that you learn from one or both of your parents that have influenced and shaped your life and who you've become and what you've done with?

Oh, my goodness. That's a great question.

And I was thinking a lot about them in anticipation of this conversation. In fact, they were both incredibly creative for one thing.

So I was raised in a house full of creative activity.

And we were all encouraged to be creative in pretty nontraditional ways to my parents were sort of beat nicks or bohemians in Greenwich Village when I was born.

And my father was an artist, a painter. My mother was a wannabe poet actually, but she had six children instead never quite got her poetry career off the ground.

But, you know, they used to have parties where they would be stepping grapes to make wine and they were into jazz.

And they had a creativity group called fortnightly that met every other week with with a bunch of people who did various art forms.

And so it was it was just sort of a beehive of creative activity that I was growing up in and also I think the most important thing.

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