Clay, you're an entrepreneur, I'm an entrepreneur.

And as they say, in Stoic, the obstacle is the way.

And so if you let you let these pinheads get in your way, you're in trouble.

Robert, one of the things that you said on multiple interviews, multiple times,

and every time you said it, I thought to myself, have I not been paying attention?

Because it felt like new information to me the first time I heard it, which is probably the 50th time I'd heard it.

You said octa non-verba.

And maybe the first time you said it, I was driving while I'm, you know, listening to the podcast

while driving.

And maybe I was half paying attention, but I octa non-verba.

And then it was like an angelic moment for me.

And I octa non-verba.

And once I finally understood what it meant and what you were saying and how it could be used,

I think it was life-changing for me and how I approach business.

Could you explain octa non-verba what it means and how our listeners can apply it?

Clay, you gave me goosebumps, man.

I'm glad it hit you as hard as it did.

Octan non-verba is the model of the U.S. Merch Marine Academy at Kings Point, New York.

I had appointments of Naval Academy and Kings Point, Merch Marine Academy.. Merch Marine Academy at Kings Point, New York. I had appointments of Naval Academy and Kings Point Merch Marine Academy.

And Merch Marine Academy's motto was octon nonverba.

In other words, don't listen to what a person says.

Watch what they do.

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