Hello and welcome sentimental garbage the podcast where we talk about the culture

we love that society sometimes makes us feel ashamed of. My name is Caroline and they're selling razor blades and mirrors in the street.

Joining me is the girl who is a hurricane in the back of her throat. It's Dolly Alderton.

Hello. Hi.

This in a way has been prepped for a week,

and in another way for five years.

And in another way, my whole life.

Okay, so you were born. I was born.

Shortly after you started wanking over Robbie Williams.

Exactly.

And then some 20 odd years later we met and I remember the first one of our first

conversations where we really felt like a real brain trust was one of us saying

do you remember how big a deal escapology was? And do you know how nobody

talks about it anymore at all? So it's for years we were like, let's talk about escapology.

But now we've become so obsessed with Robbie Williams, post-documentary that this is just Robbie Williams episode now.

Well interestingly I went back and searched in our...

What has that?

It's the great archivist.

My favorite thing to do. Robbie Williams, to find the first like digital

conversations we had about it. And it became like initially we were just

talking about escapeology and we were talking about like music and generally good pop songs.

And then Robbie became entrenched in this other conversation that we had back in 2019 and we continue to have which was about defending

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