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The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

Rob Arnott & Cam Harvey on Passive Investing Risks, The AI Boom & Stimulus That Doesn’t Stimulate | #587

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

The Idea Farm

Business, Investing, Management

4.7938 Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Today’s guests are Rob Arnott, founder and Chairman of the board of Research Affiliates, and Campbell Harvey, Head of Research at Research Affiliates and Professor of Finance at the Fuqua School of Business at Duke University. In today’s episode, Rob and Cam touch on the state of value investing in a megacap dominated market, emphasizing the potential consequences of large scale passive investing. They also touch on the rapid change presented by AI, what it may be capable of, and its impacts on how we should view investing. Finally, they address the global investing environment and macro trends, instability, and the role of government in changing world markets. (0:00) Starts (1:46) Introduction of Rob Arnott & Cam Harvey (7:35) Passive investing risks (14:22) The opportunity in small caps and foreign markets (24:22) Similarities between today & the Dot-Com era (34:43) REITs, gold and investor sentiment (47:14) Government spending & US national debt concerns (1:03:27) US debt service, defense spending, and financial crisis risks (1:05:09) Cam on the inverted yield curve (1:08:09) Closing remarks and listener feedback ----- Follow Meb on X, LinkedIn and YouTube For detailed show notes, click here To learn more about our funds and follow us, subscribe to our mailing list or visit us at cambriainvestments.com ----- Sponsor:⁠ YCharts⁠ enables financial advisors to make smarter investment decisions and better communicate with clients. Get 20% off your initial YCharts Professional subscription when you start your free trial. ----- Follow The Idea Farm: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | TikTok ----- Interested in sponsoring the show? Email us at [email protected] ----- Past guests include Ed Thorp, Richard Thaler, Jeremy Grantham, Joel Greenblatt, Campbell Harvey, Ivy Zelman, Kathryn Kaminski, Jason Calacanis, Whitney Baker, Aswath Damodaran, Howard Marks, Tom Barton, and many more.  ----- Meb's invested in some awesome startups that have passed along discounts to our listeners. Check them out here!  ----- Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Medfavor show, where the focus is on helping you grow and preserve your wealth.

0:10.9

Join us as we discuss the craft of investing and uncover new and profitable ideas, all to help you grow wealthier and wiser.

0:16.9

Better investing starts here.

0:19.5

Metfabor is the co-founder and chief investment officer at Cambria Investment Management.

0:22.5

Did it industry regulations, he will not discuss any of Cambria's funds on this podcast.

0:25.8

All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not reflect

0:28.9

the opinion of Cambria investment management or its affiliates.

0:31.2

For more information, visit cambrain investments.com.

0:34.6

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