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The Ringer Reality TV Podcast

‘Road Rules’ 30th Anniversary and ‘Challenge’ 41 Preview with Mark and Derrick | Death, Taxes, and Bananas

The Ringer Reality TV Podcast

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.4952 Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

We’re back, baby! Johnny returns to the air with two of his lifelong friends and ‘Challenge’ legends Mark Long and Derrick Kosinski. In honor of the 30th anniversary of ‘Road Rules,’ they talk about Mark and Derrick’s auditions, what made the show so special, and the mark it has left on the reality television we watch today. And to get all of you hyped for Season 41, they go through some of the new cast members and tease the drama, showmances, and competition that fans are in for. Host: Johnny Bananas Guests: Mark Long and Derrick Kosinski Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Belle Roman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Death Taxes and Bananas podcast.

0:15.1

Did you miss me as much as I missed you?

0:17.9

Now listen, I know it's no longer April or April Fool's, but I wanted to play a

0:23.2

prank on you all in mid-July, and that was leaving Josh Martinez's podcast up for the last month,

0:32.3

so that's the only thing you've had to listen to. Okay? Because the only thing better than a little bit of Josh Martinez is a lot.

0:41.0

Kind of like West Bergman, you know?

0:44.3

Every time I see one of the fans ask for a cameo for me and like I got one from

0:50.3

Wes, I always ask, that's my first question.

0:52.3

Was it an April Fool's prank?

0:54.2

Because that's what it sounds like.

0:56.1

All right.

0:57.1

But enough about them.

0:58.7

We are here, ladies and gentlemen, to celebrate an absolute milestone.

1:05.7

All right?

1:06.5

And I'm not talking about the new contract I just signed with Spotify to keep this

1:11.9

podcast in your ear, but also on your YouTube channel, which is YouTube.com slash ringer

1:21.7

reality TV.

1:24.3

And I knew that.

1:25.9

I didn't have to ask my producer, Sasha, what our YouTube channel was

1:29.2

before we started, even though we've been doing it for now, like, I don't know, six months

1:32.5

or whatever. All right. The milestone we're talking about celebrates a group of strangers

1:39.3

30 years ago, three decades, probably started before most of you were alive,

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