bro how many times have you been on the pod now is this number four for you three or four no this is

my uh fifth time oh wait sorry i'm not rocana sorry over to rocana sorry we all look the same you're sri lank and he's indian i know the difference we all look the same bro we all look the same so like you're saying to the irish guys that's how that's how i my seat. I just had Indian Americans, every Indian

America go knock on doors and say, I'm Rokana. You know, they all thought, I thought the

candidate came to every door.

All right, besties, I think that was another epic discussion. People love the interviews. I could

hear him talk for hours. Absolutely. We crushed your questions a minute. We are giving people ground truth data to underwrite your own opinion. What are you going to say? That was fun. That was great. I'm doing all in. I will say one of my appearance. I think this is number four, but one of them was on election night. That's right. And it was with Trump, Trump son, Donald Trump Jr. And I actually ran into him in the

green room right before we were doing Squawk Box. And he brought up the Pod Save interview. So there

you go. Bringing the sides together. It's been pretty amazing. I think it's a good place to start.

How successful Indian Americans have become.

And a really important topic, I think, for us to kick off with maybe this time on your fourth appearance is immigration, H-1Bs.

What's your take broadly on what we're seeing out of the Trump administration on maybe trying

to correct the abuse in these systems and maybe monetize them. And maybe do you think that's a

good strategy for correcting the abuse? First of all, there's definitely abuse. Second, it definitely

needs to be corrected. The reality is that some of the H1B visa holders are being paid below market wages.

Some of them are not going to super talented individuals or in the jobs that actually require a lot of skill. And I had a bill, a bipartisan bill,

actually, that would have reformed it, requiring paying a prevailing wage, requiring,

making sure that the categories actually were skilled categories. I don't love the blanket 100,000

fee. I think that that's not the

best way to reform it, but if partly because it puts an unfair burden on startups, it actually

may hurt with talent. But if you wanted to say, look, there's going to be some prevailing wage

standard and we need reforms. I'm open, open to that. Do you think that the president is on the right

direction then in actually trying to reform the system? Yeah, I think in terms of reforming the

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