Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Chuck Toddcast. Thanks for watching or listening. How are you doing? And my apologies to my friends at Apple who listen just on Apple. We know we've had some issues. We're working with them. We'll take your help, pinging Apple to make sure they fix this problem of automatically updating

the the podcast there so my apologies if it's frustrating you on that my guest today is

rocana so it continues sort of a series there's a theme this week as you can see talk to three

democrats from really three different parts of the country right iowa tex continue sort of a series. There's a theme this week, as you can see, talk to three Democrats from

really three different parts of the country, right? Iowa, Texas, California. The one's running for

governor, one's running for, might be running for president in Roe Kana. And one is a rising star

inside of potentially House leadership, we'll see. And they all have different takes on

what should the Democratic Party be doing going forward? How should it deal with its past?

And so I hope you listen and enjoy this conversation with Rokana through that lens. And I hope

you've, you know, listen to Rob San and I hope you listen to

Jasmine Crockett. So it's a, it's an interesting, I think we're getting an, an interesting window.

All three of these are millennial politicians, by the way, if you're keeping track generationally.

So I think it tells you sort of where the next generation of leadership wants to take the party. The question,

of course, is whether this older generation of Democratic leaders will ever give up power.

A lot of them struggle to do that, whether it was Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, or Chuck Schumer.

And you can hear a little bit of that frustration in these interviews.

But before I get there, I do want to talk a little bit about the president's trip.

I do think he's had some foreign policy potential.

He set himself up for some potential positive foreign policy developments unless he gets in his own way,

which is sort of the, you know, the most generous description

of the Trump presidency in 1.0 or 2.0, if you're looking for positive ways of how he's

tried to, you know, try to move the country in a direction that maybe there's a majority

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