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U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments

Rivers v. Guerrero

U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments

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National, Government & Organizations

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🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

A case in which the Court will decide whether 28 U.S.C. § 2244(b)(2)—which strictly limits the circumstances in which an inmate can file a second petition for federal post-conviction relief—applies to all second habeas petitions (petitions filed after the first one) or only to specific types of second petitions.

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0:00.0

We'll hear argument next in case 231345, Rivers v. Guerrero.

0:07.0

Mr. Bruland.

0:08.0

Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court, Congress did not slam the door on exculpatory evidence that emerges while a prisoner's first habeas case is on appeal.

0:18.0

Outside of habeas, there's always been a pathway to bring late-breaking claims

0:23.4

to an appellate court's attention, and historically, habeas was no different. The near-uniform

0:29.2

practice in the decades before EDPA was to consider such claims on the merits as part and parcel

0:36.1

of a prisoner's first habeas case without a word

0:39.5

about successive litigation. Congress enacted EDPA against that backdrop, and as

0:45.2

Bannister tells us, it did not redefine what counts as successive. The other side's rule is

0:52.2

unmoored from text and history, and it also comes at a cost.

0:58.0

Viable constitutional claims that would have warranted habeas relief will fall through the cracks under their rule.

1:05.7

That means every claim of sentencing error, every claim of structural error, and every Brady or NAPU claim that

1:13.7

doesn't show innocence by clear and convincing evidence. The reason those claims don't fly under

1:20.0

2244 is that Congress decided the state's interest in repose outweighs the interest in getting

1:27.1

those claims right. But the other side

1:30.0

has never explained why they're entitled to repose while they're still defending the conviction

1:34.8

on appeal, and you're not going to hear an explanation this morning. The small universe of cases

1:41.3

where our rule makes a difference is the universe of cases where

1:45.6

both the district court and the Court of Appeals agree that a new claim deserves its day in

1:51.5

court. Those cases will be rare, but when they arise, EDPA does not strip district courts

1:58.9

of the power to consider new evidence that would warrant habeas relief.

2:02.6

The lower courts here made a threshold jurisdictional error, and so never reached the merits or any procedural issues.

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