after the mortar hit, a bunch of people were wounded and killed and it was bloody mayhem,

etc. These are teenage rebels fighting the Qaddafi's forces and a bunch of journalists,

and no one knew what to do with a bleeding groin wound, right? I mean, those are very, very dangerous,

but if you stuff the wound and put pressure on it, you on it, you're not going to stop the blood loss, but you might slow it down enough that you deliver the person to the hospital, you know, still barely alive. And at that point, they get a transfusion, and then it's game on, right? And now it's like, oh, now we have a chance, right? You do nothing. They're dead in three minutes. And so I realized that most journalists and myself included,

that, you know, we really, journalists collectively just don't, don't have any medical training.

So I started reporters instructed in saving colleagues. And it was to train freelance war reporters

in frontline combat medicine.

How can I help? How can I be useful in ending needless suffering? Do not be afraid of work

that has no end. We have to organize a social movement.

We have an opportunity to lead by example, versus just talking, hot air.

I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow,

eventually it could change.

The people are the ones that can make the change.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to season two of change agents, an ironclad original,

proudly presented by Montana Knife Company.

This episode is about war journalism and the dangers that combat journalists face and how people

can help. My guest today is Sebastian Younger, an award-winning war journalist, as well as a

best-selling author, and the founder of the organization, Reporters Instructed in Saving Colleagues,

R-I-S-C. His works include the books, Freedom, Tribe, War,

a Death in Belmont, Fire and the Perfect Storm, as well as the film Restrepo and Coringal,

The Last Patrol, Which Way is the Front Line from Here, and Hell on Earth, the Fall of Syria,

and the Rise of ISIS. He recently launched

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