Hi, I'm Anush, and I'm Rachel, and I'm Ben.

And on today's episode of New Statesman Podcast, we react to the new Conservative Party leader,

and you ask us, why will the party still be divided under Rishi Sunak?

So we have our third Conservative Party leader in seven weeks,

who will be the fifth Prime Minister in just six years of the UK, Rishi Sunak.

Now, Rachel, you're speaking to us from a sort of oak paneled room in Parliament,

the only quiet room you could find, but you've just been outside the speech,

he made tutorial MPs in a private room in Parliament after winning.

What was the mood like?

What were people saying as they were going in?

I think given the vast majority of MPs got behind Rishi Sunak,

it was still wanting to make the maximum projection of being just incredibly united

and that this is a very settled decision, and that this is a party that is not at wall with itself.

It's trying to put division behind it, so this was the meeting of Conservative Party MPs

in one of the committee rooms just near here.

Penny Mordent entered before him, got a really big cheer for everybody,

so to the point where they're banging on the desk purposely,

so people outside can hear.

And then Rishi Sunak comes in a few minutes later,

similarly gets a very big round of applause, lots of banging on desks,

and we had some MPs briefing us afterwards.

I think for the first ten MPs that came out, we were asking,

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