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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Rishi Sunak's double trouble

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6252 Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Labour's double by-election win has sent shockwaves through Westminster. So what does it mean for Keir Starmer? What does Rishi Sunak do now? And what might it tell us about the battleground on which the general election might be fought? The FT's Lucy Fisher joins the pod team to react to the results. Talking of the general election… everyone is guessing when it might be held. Could it be next May? Early Autumn. Late Autumn? Maybe as late as January 2025? We plot the paths and game the scenarios. Could a second referendum on Scottish independence be back on the cards? The SNP think they have come up with a route. So what is it and could it work? Presented by Hannah White. With Cath Haddon, Alex Thomas and Jess Sargeant. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government.

0:14.0

I'm Hannah White. So it's the morning after the night before or the slightly later morning

0:18.9

after the slightly earlier morning, because a few

0:20.9

hours ago, the results of two huge by-elections landed. And Labor won both, overturning massive

0:26.7

conservative majorities in Tamworth and mid-bedfordshire. So, how did Labor do it? What does Rishi

0:31.9

Sunak do now? And what might this tell us about the battleground on which the general election might

0:36.4

be fought? Talking of the general election might be fought?

0:42.9

Talking of the general election, everyone is talking about when it might be held. Could it be next May,

0:48.4

early autumn, late autumn, maybe as late as January 2025? The Institute for Government has been plotting the different paths to the election and gaming the scenarios, so we'll have a chat about

0:53.1

that. Sticking with the voting theme, could a second referendum on Scottish independence be back on

0:58.4

the cards? The SMP think they've come up with a route. So what is it? And could it work?

1:03.1

We'll dial up our IFG colleague who headed up to the SMP conference in Aberdeen earlier this week.

1:08.6

Joining me in the studio is an IFG duo, Alex Thomas and Kath Haddon. Hi,

1:12.7

both. Hi, Hannah. Hi, Hannah. And I'm delighted to be joined again by Lucy Fisher,

1:17.5

Whitehall editor at the Financial Times. Hi, Lucy. Hi, Hannah. Great to join you. I want to start

1:23.5

by turning to the ongoing international crisis, which of course overshadows everything that's happening in Westminster.

1:29.5

It's just over a week since Hamas launched its surprise attack.

1:32.8

President Biden has now visited Israel, Rishi Sunak, too.

1:36.5

This is a regional conflict which is becoming an international crisis.

1:40.5

Lucy, you were formerly a defence editor at the Times.

1:43.6

What's the significance of these international

1:45.8

leaders visiting the region now? Well, look, I think obviously the main emphasis and priority

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