Last year while traveling around the Netherlands and speaking with the farmers who are getting kicked off their land,

we also wanted to answer a fundamental question about what was taking place.

And the question was this, the Dutch farmers were getting kicked off their land

because at least ostensibly, the government wanted to reduce nitrogen emissions.

With the thinking being, at least with

the public thinking being that if they did not reduce these emissions, then the natural

environment will be ruined.

However, is that really the case? Will the environment really be in danger if these nitrogen standards were not met?

And also, what's the actual science behind these standards?

I mean, the best weather models out there can only forecast about a

week or two out but these government nitrogen models they were claiming to be able to

foresee the future decades in advance and so in order to figure this out and to unpack the mystery, we went over to the home of Mr. Jop Hana Camp.

He is not only a scientist who studied the nitrogen issue for well over eight years

and he was even commissioned by the nitrogen issue for well over eight years and he was even commissioned by the

nitrogen ministry to look into the matter but also aside from being an actual scientist

he's also a theologian giving him a very unique perspective on the entire matter.

And what he told us about these climate models, well, it was rather shocking to say the least.

Take a listen.

Jup, can you please introduce yourself and your qualifications in terms of the, you know,

nitrogen debate?

My qualifications.

I'm a chemist by trade.

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