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I'm here with Will Summer, author of False Flag. We're here to talk about Pam Bondi, who is stepping in it to say the least. Will, let's set the scene and then you can tell me what the reaction is. But Pam Bondi, our attorney general, uh, did the rounds yesterday.

She was with Donald Trump in the White House. Then she did a couple interviews. One with the

Katie Miller podcast, a new podcast. I know you're a devoted listener. Are you a devoted listener?

Always. I should be. You know, I, I hit the like and subscribe. You really should be. Yeah, I have no

excuse. And not a two, not at two time speed at regular speed. You got to appreciate every word that comes in.

Anyway, she goes on the podcast. She's asked about the Charlie Kirk assassination. Um, and honestly,

she's just sort of basically summarizing the administration's, um, sort of agitation over what it views as a culture of leftist

speech that has led to this moment. I should know I don't really have really great convincing

evidence that that is the case. In fact, we're supposed to get something today from prosecutors

in Utah.

But this is the line that's taken hold.

Anyways, Bondi gets up there and she says,

There's free speech and then there's hate speech.

And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society.

Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people? So we show them that some action is better than no action.

We will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech,

anything. And that's across the aisle.

Now, obviously, this is kind of a bullshit legal argument. There is no real distinction between hate speech and, you know, free speech. And people, including the late Charlie Kirk,

made that very point. But this has gone over like a turd on the right. Yeah, I mean, this Kirk, made that very point.

But this has gone over like a turd on the right. Yeah, I mean, this is sort of a classic Pam Bondi moment in that she's sort of saying what everyone else on the right is saying. I mean, she wants revenge. We're going to crush these liberals. But she has to bungle it in such a way that everyone's like, no, Pam, you dofess. What have you done? And know, and she really can't win. I mean, as far as sort of winning the MAGA base over goes. What are some of the reactions that we've seen so far? Yeah, I mean, basically, we're seeing a lot of fire Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi must resign. Savannah Hernandez, who's a turning point USA contributor, which is obviously relevant here again that she's talking about Charlie Kirk. She says, you know, they got to get rid of her. Britt Hume said, you know, essentially Pam Bondi has no idea what she's talking about. You know, and I think what's interesting here is that you might have thought conservatives would have been concerned about all the previous post-Charlie Kirk stuff about, you know, we're going to crush dissent, we're going to

designate these leftists as foreign as domestic terrorist organizations. But I guess they couldn't

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