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Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Right-to-work is bad for workers (with Shane Larson)

Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Civic Ventures

Business, Government, News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2021

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Right-to-work laws, which make unionizing more difficult in 28 states, could more accurately be referred to as right-to-work… for less. Why? On average, worker pay drops 3.1% when right-to-work laws are passed. Shane Larson from CWA, the largest communications and media labor union in the U.S., joins Goldy to explain why right-to-work laws are so harmful, how they came to be, and why it’s so important to pass the PRO Act to fight for workers’ rights. Shane Larson is the Senior Director for Government Affairs and Policy for the Communications Workers of America. Twitter: @ShaneLarsonCWA @CWAUnion https://www.epi.org/publication/so-called-right-to-work-is-wrong-for-montana/ https://aflcio.org/issues/right-work https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/04/24/the-right-to-work-really-means-the-right-to-work-for-less/ Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com/ Twitter: @PitchforkEcon Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

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0:00.0

Hey, pitchfork listeners. Recently, five Republicans joined House Democrats in passing the

0:14.3

Pro Act, the Protecting the Right to Organize Act, leaving it to our bare Democratic majority

0:21.4

in the Senate for final passage. It's a big fight and a really important one for workers

0:28.2

throughout the country, whether you're unionized or not. So to learn a bit more about the

0:32.8

Pro Act and what it does to address the your well-earned name to write the work laws in over

0:38.4

two dozen states, I'm excited to talk with Shane Larson from the communication workers of America.

0:50.2

My name is Shane Larson. I am assistant to the president,

0:53.8

senior director for government affairs and policy at the communications workers of America,

0:59.3

CWA. Folks, no, the CWA, you represent the telecommunications workers at the telecommunications

1:07.3

companies. Also, the newspaper guild, right? Correct, we've got a bunch of really great members.

1:15.2

As you mentioned, the telecommunications sector, folks work at AT&T Verizon,

1:18.8

CenturyLink Quest, as well as the news guild. We also represent NABIT, which is broadcast

1:24.8

technicians. The Association of Flight Attendants is part of CWA, and we also have a lot of

1:30.7

healthcare workers and public sector workers in New Jersey, New York, and other states around the

1:35.5

country. The House recently passed the Pro Act, which is the Protecting the Right to Organize

1:45.2

Act. Tell us a little bit about what this would do. Well, this bill would actually help

1:49.2

level the playing field for workers in the economy. It would help reverse the 60-year long

1:56.6

effort by corporations in this country to basically chip away at our labor laws to the point where

2:03.4

workers today have literally no rights on the job. Corporations have sort of unfettered ability

2:11.2

to prevent workers from organizing. The most important thing about the Pro Act is it would allow

2:16.4

workers to without fear of intimidation or retaliation to talk amongst themselves, talk about

2:23.2

things like working conditions, health and safety concerns, wages, and be able to work together

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