I just feel like the process is already so bad.

If the report was true that John Hollinger reported in The Athletic, that, you know, the Bulls had potentially the Grizzlies draft pick to take for Lonzo, you do that trade 100 times out of 100.

That's not second-guessing.

This is like obvious that that would have been an amazing return for Lonzo.

You know, what is he going to do with Vooch?

What's he going to do with Kobe?

Like, just seems like Arturis is always late.

And it backs, it hurts the team, and he sucks.

Ricky O'Donnell of SB Nation doesn't pull a lot of punches.

He's covered the Bulls for a really long time.

And he's got long thoughts,

which is why we thought it was appropriate to bring him on to the Spiego and Home Show

and talk to him about the draft as we get ready for the Bulls and drafting.

He joins us now on the Circus Sports Illinois hotline, circa, Las Vegas.com.

Ricky, thanks for joining us.

How you doing?

I'm doing good. Thanks for having me, guys.

You got it, man.

So, yeah, our tourist gets to be bad and keep his job.

Everybody gets to keep their job and just roll on.

But we do have a very public face swap that has arrived.

Mark Eversley is going to speak tonight.

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