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The Long View

Rick Bookstaber: Avoiding Complexity Is 'Risk 101'

The Long View

Morningstar

Finance, Dan Lefkovitz, Amy Arnott, Entrepreneurship, Investing Leaders, Jeff Ptak, Investors, Christine Benz, Influential Investors, Careers, Long-term Investing, Financial Services, Business, Investing, Morningstar

4.5775 Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

The risk-management expert and author discusses the differences between risk tolerance and risk capacity, how market cycles impact risk, and how to keep things simple by being 'pre-armed.'

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0:32.8

Hi, and welcome to the Longview. I'm Jeff Patak Chief Ratings Officer for Morningstar Research Services.

0:38.2

And I'm Christine Ben's Director of Personal Finance and Retirement Planning at Morningstar.

0:43.1

Our guest this week is Rick Bookstabber. Rick is the head of risk at Fabric, a startup he founded to provide risk management software to individual investors through the financial advisors that serve them.

0:54.8

Prior to founding Fabric, Rick held a number of senior risk management roles, most recently

0:59.0

as chief risk officer at the University of California system, and before that at various

1:04.4

hedge funds and banks, including Bridgewater, Front Point Partners, Morgan Stanley, and Solomon

1:10.2

brothers. He also served in the Obama administration

1:13.0

where his work included stints with the Financial Stability Oversight Council and at the SEC

1:17.7

on the Volker Rule and other regulations. Rick has authored several books including A Demon

1:23.3

of Our Own Design, which was published in 2007, as well as the end of theory, which was published

1:29.3

in 2017. Rick received his bachelor's in economics from Brigham Young University and earned a

1:35.6

doctorate in economics from MIT. Rick, welcome to the Longview. Thanks for inviting me.

1:42.5

That's our pleasure. So maybe to get started, I don't think everyone in our audience will be familiar with what a professional risk manager like yourself does.

1:52.0

And so maybe a good starting point is you walking us through how it is you define risk and, you know, whether that definition is universal or whether it can vary depending on

2:02.9

context or other factors. Could you do that? Sure. You know, there are risk managers in a lot of

2:09.2

different areas. When it comes to financial markets, the risk manager is really looking at

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