You've got Fox News saying the economy is a disaster, and you've got CNN and MSNBC, and the Biden campaign saying it's the envy of the Western world.

Well, what the frick is it, right? Who is right? What is actually, oh, is the border a complete mess, or is it better than people think it is?

You know, Shapiro, Joe Rogan, and they're all in these digital spaces, and that's where young people are learning their civics from,

that aren't always necessarily based, in fact, but based in Republican or conservative ideals.

As the oldest president in American history,

he has been able to accomplish more

bipartisan background bills, the biggest climate change bill in human history, you know,

infrastructure, the chips act, all these things that no one said could get done. So I think as

if we get the country together once or twice every four years to have these national debates,

let's actually see if we could all get to the Don Lemon Show. I am Don Lemon, of course, and we're joined today by political communications specialist, author, and the so-called civics dean, Richard Green. Thanks for coming on the show.

How are you doing? It's a great pleasure, John. Always great to see you. And I'm really, really happy to

contribute to your new show. Oh, thank you very much. Listen, I want to talk about, I'm going to, you know,

use some of your expertise to talk about first the upcoming 2024 presidential debate on Thursday.

So it is the president Joe Biden, the former president Donald Trump, they're facing off in this 90-minute televised debate.

There's some new rules, though. There's going to be no studio audience in attendance, right?

Microphones are going to be muted between candidates when not called on to speak.

No opening statements, no pre-written notes on stage.

I mean, is it, boy, it sounds like a lot of rules.

It's like a political playground or something.

Have you ever heard of Donald Trump?

I think I know where you're going with this.

Well, where I'm going is that there is so much performance and Donald Trump is so great at it.

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