Rich Roll on Mastering Pain, Overcoming Addiction & Living With Purpose (Fan Fav)

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🗓️ 13 September 2025

⏱️ 102 minutes

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This is a fan fav episode. Are there times when we can get a better result by letting go? What role does pain tolerance play in addiction? Is a plant-based diet really that restrictive? For endurance athlete, author, and podcaster Rich Roll, these kinds of questions are just the tip of the iceberg. In today’s episode of Impact Theory, Rich and Tom explore the landscape of ideas ranging everywhere from spirituality and his experience with 12 Steps, all the way to plant-based protein, vegan bodybuilders, and everywhere in between. So whether you or someone you love is struggling with addiction, you’re feeling out of touch with your purpose, or you simply want to know where to find the best vegan cheese on the planet, then this episode is for you. ORIGINAL AIR DATE: 3-29-22 SHOW NOTES: 00:00 | Introduction 00:56 | Spirituality and Trusting Your Intuition 08:16 | Solving Problems by Letting Go 21:21 | The Importance of Creative Constraints 27:26 | Hubris and Self-Understanding 47:53 | Relapse and Dealing With Failure 58:36 | The Path to Recovery From Addiction 1:05:36 | SriMu and Rich’s Experience With Veganism 1:17:52 | Plant-Based Dietary Choices and Longevity Follow Rich Roll: Website - https://bit.ly/1lTmUBQ Twitter - https://bit.ly/1Rpn19v YouTube - https://bit.ly/2ROrM2G Instagram - https://bit.ly/2PuIWAU Facebook - https://bit.ly/2A9vDAB LinkedIn - https://bit.ly/2A9Pbop What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business: join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER SCALING a business: see if you qualify here. Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox: sign up here. ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast, Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** Join me live on my Twitch stream. I'm live daily from 6:30 to 8:30 am PT at www.twitch.tv/tombilyeu ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS: apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	The more we learn about addiction, the more we realize that it isn't just about the drunk in the gutter or the guy who can't pull the needle out of his arm, that on some level we're all prey to some form of addictive, compulsive behavior patterns that are interfering with us aligning our values with our actions.
0:28.3	Rich Roll, welcome back to the show.
0:30.4	So happy to be here, man.
0:31.8	Thanks for having me today.
0:33.3	Dude, for sure.
0:34.3	So it's always tough to interview somebody like you where I literally just made a list of all the things we could cover. And it is a very broad swath. So for the thumbnail, it's tough. I don't know where this will end up going. But I want to start with spirituality. I heard you make a statement sort of as an offhanded comment to answer somebody else's thing.
0:54.9	And I was like, whoa, I really want to know more about that.
0:57.0	You said that your spiritual life is the most important thing.
1:01.0	And one, I would love if you could just define what do you mean by spirituality and why is it so important?
1:08.4	Wow, coming out of the gate.
1:09.8	Hot with a rock.
1:16.0	Yeah. How to articulate that. I mean,
1:23.7	the first thing I would say is that for me, there's nothing that isn't spiritual. Like, I don't look at life in a binary, dualistic way in the sense that there is the non-spiritual life and then my spiritual life.
1:33.9	Now, when you say non-dualistic, though, are you taking a very, like there is the mind?
1:39.2	So traditional dualism for those that haven't heard that phrase, you've got the brain, and then you've got
1:44.5	the sort of spiritual being, and the two are not the same. That would be sort of classical dualism.
1:48.7	Correct. Is that what you mean? Correct. So for me, it is non-dualistic. It's all one thing. That's how I
1:56.0	think about it. And I don't think about spirituality in any kind of specific dogmatic sense.
2:03.5	I suppose I would define it as an awe and wonder that anything is possible and that there
2:14.8	is much that we don't understand.
2:17.2	I think we're hubristic as human animals to believe that we are capable of understanding everything.
2:24.3	And we've come quite far in terms of trying to understand space and the brain and what's at the bottom of the ocean and how our bodies work, but I think
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