I'm Cameron Espazito and I have a lot of jobs. I'm an actor. You've seen me on ABC's and a million little things.

I'm a stand-up comic bestselling author, but I am no expert at survival.

On my new podcast Survivor Diet trying, we're going to learn together from shark attacks to

tsunamis and bad breakups. This is your one-stop shop to prepare for the absolute worst-case scenario.

Join me and some special guests on Survivor Diet trying a comedy podcast that prepares you for anything.

Listen and follow wherever you get your podcasts.

Is depression funny? I think that what comes from depression is some of the funniest stuff in the

world. My friends that are comedians use their depression as grist for a meal that turns out

the most brilliant comedy that keeps the world laughing and smiling. So eventually depression

is funny. But when you're enveloped in a cloud of it, there's nothing funny about it.

I'm not wrong with me, I've got a sadness I can't shake now. Is there something I can't take now?

Doctor Hez and thinks as he might know just the thing there's a performer here and down and he's the world greatest clown.

After as we all know is the best medicine. The guy says dark that's the problem.

What if I was to tell you I'm piacin?

And this great big smile is just for show.

What if I was to tell you this is just grease paint? Would you say I'm a hopeless case?

Say it ain't so. Would you say I'm a sad clown? Tell me something I don't know.

It's the hilarious world of depression. I'm John Moe. We talk to funny creative people who have dealt with this.

That way we can have a pleasant time, learn some things and not feel so alone.

My guest on this episode is someone you've heard on every episode we've done. You've heard him singing. But he talks too.

My name is Rhett Miller. I sing in a band called Old 97's as well as make solo music and write things.

And I am right now in a studio at the Harvard Public Affairs and Communications building in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

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