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Hello, everybody. It's Jonathan Cohn, senior writer at the bulwark. Today, we are going to talk about

vaccines and vaccine safety, and we're going to do it with a bona fide expert in the field.

So we are recording this in the middle of what is shaping up as the worst measles outbreak in decades.

In Texas, which is the epicenter of the outbreak at last count, they had recorded 702 cases, which is probably an undercount.

92 of them ended up in the hospital and two have died, both of them children, the first known child deaths from measles

since 2003. Nearly every case of the measles we're seeing is from somebody who was not vaccinated,

which is something that is happening, we're seeing increasingly in the United States.

One reason for that is high profile figures in the media and politics

who have been saying that vaccines are not safe. And as you may have heard, one of them,

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is now the Secretary of Health and Human Services. As someone who's

spent a career interviewing people about health care and as a dad.

You know, I know that every parent wants what's best for their children.

And when you're hearing lots of confusing information, you're hearing leaders, question vaccines.

It's hard to know what to do.

And that's why I'm so pleased to have here today with us today, our guest, Joshua Sharfstein, N.D.

If the name or face is familiar, that's because he's on TV a lot.

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