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🗓️ 21 July 2025
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Historian Daniel Immerwahr eviscerates RFK Jr. as a master of glib misinformation—“profoundly informed,” yet wielding that knowledge in bad faith to undermine truth and public trust. Kennedy is the conductor of an orchestra of error. Also discussed: how science became political dogma during COVID, how Fauci’s certainty helped fuel backlash, and why a provocateur like Kennedy thrives in epistemological gray zones. Also on the show: Trump’s obscure-commission chess moves, as he "Truths" his way through any Epstein flak.
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0:00.0 | It's Monday, July 21st, 2025 from Peach Fish Productions. |
0:08.0 | It's the gist, I'm Mike Pesca. |
0:10.0 | And as they say, old Donnie Trump seems to have wriggled out of it again. |
0:14.0 | How do he do it? |
0:15.0 | How do distract the people who are driven to distraction by the Epstein conspiracy theory. What is it about |
0:22.2 | that cohort of people that was more interested in a truth social post of a girl in a bikini |
0:29.3 | catching a snake or a weird shallow fake of Barack Obama that got their eye off the ball from |
0:35.5 | this society-shattering conspiracy we're sitting on top of, |
0:39.7 | huh, Donald Trump did post all that. |
0:42.2 | He tweeted some stuff about the Washington commanders. |
0:44.8 | If they don't change their name back to the Redskins, he's taking away funding. |
0:49.2 | So I will take a First Amendment stance, as I did on the gist list today. |
0:52.6 | And I will say, for clarity's sake, |
0:54.8 | so you know what we're talking about, the Washington Redskins, but I will also take a better |
0:58.4 | First Amendment stance and say Donald Trump is violating the First Amendment and demanding |
1:03.6 | that a team, a private team, change its name. Oh, look, it's working. He distracted me. |
1:09.8 | He also posted this about a new technology. |
1:14.4 | This could be perhaps the greatest revolution in financial technology since the birth of the |
1:19.9 | internet itself. I think that was about the bedazzler. But most of all, here's the dynamic. |
1:26.0 | Trump gets in trouble. The media writes about the trouble, and boom, |
1:30.4 | all of a sudden, Trump can attack the media. Turns out Trump's acolytes, even those who are sure |
1:36.6 | there was some shady business with Jeffrey Epstein, they do hate the media more than whatever |
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