RFK Jr’s War on Vaccines Just Got Worse
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🗓️ 1 May 2025
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| 1:00.1 | There's been like four or five major RFK Jr. announcements. Not all of them are on vaccines, |
| 1:06.4 | but the big ones are. And I just want to kind of go through this list. And then you can give us |
| 1:12.5 | the real rundown about how serious this is, how much it matters, and why you think he's doing it. |
| 1:18.2 | So the biggest one is in my estimation that he is going to be requiring, or he says |
| 1:24.7 | HHS is going to be requiring, a placebo testing for new vaccines. |
| 1:28.8 | This has been something that he has talked about repeatedly prior to becoming HHS secretary, |
| 1:34.7 | thinks that these vaccines are not necessarily safe or at a minimum not properly tested. |
| 1:42.6 | And so there's a lot of ethical concerns about this. |
| 1:46.2 | What do you make of it? |
| 1:48.1 | Yeah, yeah. |
| 1:48.8 | So first of all, I think we can say he doesn't think they're safe. |
| 1:51.8 | I mean, he has said that over his career. |
| 1:54.1 | As, you know, along the way as he has, you know, at various times needed to seem more |
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