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The Brian Lehrer Show

RFK Jr. Fires Vaccine Advisory Committee

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

RFK Jr. announced he was firing every member of the CDC's vaccine advisory committee. Epidemiologist Katelyn Jetelina talks about RFK Jr.'s goals and their potential consequences.

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0:00.0

It's the brilliant layer show on WNYC.

0:13.0

Good morning again, everyone.

0:14.0

On Monday, U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. announced that he is dismissing the entire

0:22.7

Centers for Disease Control Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, that is, the expert panel

0:30.1

that for decades has helped guide U.S. vaccine policy. RFK. Jr. says this is part of his broader

0:36.5

effort to, quote, restore trust in public

0:39.8

health, but the vast majority of public health experts argue it's more about dismantling the

0:45.0

scientific infrastructure that has helped steer the country through everything from polio to COVID.

0:50.6

So we're going to talk about what this move might actually mean in practice. How are vaccines

0:54.9

recommended in the U.S. now? What does it mean to fire the people who've been evaluating

1:00.5

safety data for years, all 17 people who are doing that? And how are scientists and health

1:06.5

professionals preparing for this next phase of public health under a deeply skeptical administration.

1:13.0

Joining us now is Dr. Caitlin Jedalina, epidemiologist, data scientist, and author of the

1:19.1

newsletter called Your Local Epidemiologist.

1:22.6

She's been following this story closely and breaking it down for readers.

1:26.4

And as some of you know, she was on with us multiple

1:28.6

times during the height of COVID and since. Dr. Jedolita, always good to have you. Welcome back to

1:33.9

WNIC. Yeah, thank you for having me. Good morning. So give our listeners a little more background.

1:39.4

What exactly is the CDC's advisory committee on immunization practices? Yeah, so for a vaccine or medical

1:48.3

device or medication to make it from clinical trials to public access to your arms, for example,

1:54.6

it goes through a pretty, not pretty, it goes through a really rigorous process, which includes

2:00.7

FDA. It also includes ACIP, which is a external committee made up of pediatricians, immunologists, epidemiologists, physicians who review the evidence and recommend who should receive which vaccines and when.

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