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How We Survive

Rewriting the Rules

How We Survive

Marketplace

Business, News

51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

The city of Albuquerque exists in part because of the Azotea Tunnel, a massive infrastructure project that effectively rerouted part of the Colorado River into the Rio Grande. The project helped sustain Albuquerque’s rapid population growth. Meanwhile, some communities lost out. Water that would have flowed through the Jicarilla Apache Nation was instead diverted via the tunnel.

In this episode, we travel 180 miles north of Albuquerque to the town of Dulce to talk to Daryl Vigil, retired longtime water administrator, about how the tribe is fighting for a seat at the table in ongoing Colorado River management. And we visit To’Hajiilee, a community dealing with water insecurity that stands to benefit from leasing Jicarilla settlement water.

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Rio Grande is a wide band of muddy brown water that bisects the city of Albuquerque

0:05.4

before making its way to the Gulf of Mexico. I like to walk my dog there sometimes on the

0:10.8

Bosque trails that run alongside it.

0:13.0

Ali, you want to go see the river?

0:15.0

It's a chilly morning in October.

0:18.0

We're not far from a busy road, but it's pretty peaceful out here.

0:21.0

You see the ducks? Or I guess it was peaceful until we showed up.

0:28.0

Okay, I take off my shoes and Sally and I weighed into the water that makes our city possible.

0:35.0

I guess I knew that a lot of Albuquerque's water supply came from the Colorado,

0:40.0

but I never really thought about how. We're standing in the Rio Grande, a couple

0:46.1

hundred miles from the nearest Colorado tributary, but some of the water we're

0:51.2

standing in comes from the Colorado River system.

0:54.8

This is our drinking water supply and we only have it because we stole it from somebody else.

1:06.4

So how did Colorado River water get here to Albuquerque? The answer lies about 180 miles to the north on the Hickorya Apache Nation.

1:13.0

Hazotea tunnel outlet.

1:16.0

Isn't that pretty wild?

1:18.0

That's the voice of Darrell V. Hill,

1:20.0

a big deal in the world of tribal water policy.

1:24.0

Back in July, he showed me all around Hickorya country.

1:28.0

We probably put 100 miles on his blue pickup that day.

1:32.0

Sorry, Darrell.

1:33.0

Starting here on the eastern edge of the reservation,

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