Rewriting the Rules: The SEC & CFTC on Crypto, IPOs & the Future of American Markets
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Podcast, LLC
4.0 • 10.4K Ratings
🗓️ 11 March 2026
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
(0:00) Jason and Chamath welcome SEC's Paul Atkins and CFTC's Michael Selig
(0:53) Atkins on how US markets have changed over his 40 year career
(3:04) Top priorities across both agencies: Fixing the IPO drought, crypto regulation, cutting unnecessary rules
(8:16) AI trading bots, autonomous hedge funds, and investing with leverage
(15:30) Ending the "Turf War" between the SEC and CFTC, super app vision
(19:15) Prediction markets, insider trading, gray area
(26:56) Trump advocates for changing quarterly earnings to bi-annual
(30:30) Changing the accreditation rules a priority for 2026
(34:56) HFT firms that dominate the futures markets, swap reporting
(40:36) VC fund formation
(46:18) US markets vs the world, crypto classification
(52:54) Biggest risks: Market manipulation, crypto scams, and the Gen Z gambling crisis
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| 0:00.0 | All right, everybody, welcome to the All In interview program. |
| 0:03.4 | Today, we are delighted to have two of the most important individuals shaping capital |
| 0:09.5 | markets over the next couple of years. |
| 0:11.8 | SEC Chair Paul Atkins is with us as well as CFTC Chair Michael Seelig. |
| 0:17.7 | Welcome to the All In interview show, gentlemen. |
| 0:21.4 | Glad to be here. Very much. Great to be here. Also with me, my bestie, Shemoth Pollyhappitia, |
| 0:25.9 | who is known to participate in capital markets. I think there's a great structure here for us to talk. |
| 0:32.7 | Many opportunities and then guardrails and things that we should be concerned about in such a dynamic |
| 0:39.7 | time. Chairman Atkins, this is your third tour of duty since the 90s. Things have changed |
| 0:45.3 | dramatically. So maybe just to start us off here, and I know Chumot's got a lot of great questions |
| 0:49.5 | ready to go. I'm just curious, in your time, let's say the last 40 years or so, what have you noted here about capital markets and how they've changed and what's important for us looking forward? |
| 1:03.8 | Well, thanks. It's great to be here and see both of you all today. Well, so I started out as a young lawyer in New York City doing corporation finance work, |
| 1:13.9 | you know, new offerings and that sort of thing in the mid-80s. And it's, and there, you know, |
| 1:20.3 | to be a startup company and to build your products and do R&D and all that, you had to go public in order to, so Apple and |
| 1:30.0 | Microsoft advanced micro devices, all of those companies started off as, you know, IPOs. |
| 1:38.6 | And so, and Reese and Horowitz has a really, I think, a really good bar chart where they compare the companies of the early |
| 1:47.7 | and mid to late 80s to today, where, I mean, it just basically demonstrates through the |
| 1:55.2 | ROI that insiders versus the buyers of the public stock, you know, enjoyed from those early companies, |
| 2:04.9 | the insiders, meaning, you know, there's not much private equity or venture capital back |
| 2:09.7 | then, but the insiders, meaning the officers, directors, whatnot, they had a relatively |
| 2:15.1 | thin slice of the entire pie. I mean, everyone made out well, |
| 2:18.6 | obviously. But the public purchasers in the IPO, you know, made out very well over the years and |
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