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Reviving The Woolly Mammoth ... With Mice

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🗓️ 4 March 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

You've heard of the woolly mammoth. But have you heard of woolly mice? These critters were genetically modified by the Dallas-based biotech company Colossal Biosciences to have the same "woolly" and fat appearance as the ancient mammoths. The mice are a key step in the longer journey to de-extinct the woolly mammoth. NPR's Rob Stein takes us to the lab where it all happened.

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0:26.6

Hey there, shortwaver's Regina Barber here.

0:28.6

And today I'm joined by NPR's Rob Stein.

0:30.9

Hey, Rob.

0:31.3

Hey, Gina.

0:32.2

Rob, you're usually here to talk about stuff related to health like COVID or CRISPR or organ transplants, but word on the

0:39.2

street is today is a little different. Yep. I'm here this time to talk about little fuzzy,

0:44.6

squeaky animals. Okay. Let me guess. Do they like cheese? How did you know? Yes, indeed. I'm

0:51.3

talking about mice. And these aren't just any mice. Okay. These are, wait for it, woolly mice.

0:59.9

Okay. Woolly mice. Rob, what makes them woolly? Well, Tina, you've heard of the woolly mammoth, right?

1:06.9

Of course. I love those hairy elephants. They used to roam the tundra. They were actually still around when the pyramids were built.

1:14.0

Exactly. Before they went extinct, thousands of years ago, maybe because of climate change and hunting.

1:19.9

Okay, so these mice, they're like miniature versions of woolly mammoths?

1:23.5

Bingo.

1:24.4

Cool. Okay. But why are you bringing them up now?

1:27.8

Well, because someday, some scientists want to bring a mammoth-like creature itself back from extinction.

1:34.8

Wow.

1:35.3

So they have, like, Jurassic Park-like intentions?

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