Hello, everyone. You're listening to Family Talk, a radio broadcasting ministry of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Dr. James Dobson, and thank you for joining us for this program.

Well, welcome back to Family Talk, the broadcast division of the Dr. James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Roger Marsh, and today we are bringing you part two of Dr. Dobson's classic conversation

with Kim Meader, co-founder of Crystal Peaks Youth Ranch in Oregon, where rescued horses are

paired with herding children free of charge.

For over 25 years now, this ministry

has witnessed God working miracles of healing through the unique bond between a horse and a broken

hearted child. On the last edition of Family Talk, we heard Kim Meader share from her own story

of tragedy and redemption and how God used a little horse to help heal her shattered heart after losing

both of her parents by the time she was nine years old. That personal experience became the

foundation for a ministry that now serves thousands of families each year, and through their

Ignition Training Conference, Kim and her husband Troy have helped launch over 200 similar

ministries all across North America

and beyond. On today's edition of Family Talk, you'll hear incredible stories of God's

transforming power, moments that reveal how he meets us in our deepest pain and brings hope

where there seems to be none. Let's rejoin Dr. James Dobson now and Kim Meeter for the conclusion

of this uplifting conversation right here on today's edition of Family Talk.

Well, Kim, it was such a joy to have you here yesterday. You had me in tears, and it's not the

first time you've done that.

You're really good at that because I tell you what, the Lord has a way of breaking into

our conversations and has done that from the beginning, more than 20 years ago when I first

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