Revisiting The Rule of Law in the Era of Trump with Kate Shaw

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2018

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Listen for a couple of WITHpod announcements! Since his first day in office, Donald Trump has been testing the boundaries of the law on multiple fronts. From his open hostility towards the investigation into his campaign’s involvement with a foreign adversary, to his policy prescriptions by way of executive order, to the way Donald Trump runs his own White House, this President has challenged the rule of law like no other recent President. So, in the case of Donald Trump v. the Law – who’s winning? And what can we learn from what’s happened so far? In this episode Chris gets answers from Kate Shaw, a law professor from the Cardozo School of Law who has worked in both the White House and the Supreme Court, and who also happens to be his wife. It also happened to be her birthday on the day this was recorded, and yes, that came up. Email us at [email protected] Tweet using #WITHpod Read more at nbcnews.com/whyisthishappening

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Why is this happening with me, your host Chris Ais.
0:06.8	Well have you noticed something new about this episode that there was no teaser bite?
0:10.7	Various stuute, very observant with pod heads.
0:14.0	First of all, Merry Christmas or Merry War on Christmas, whichever you celebrate, because
0:19.0	if you're getting this it's on, but this is going live on the day of Christmas.
0:23.9	So whichever your personal devotional tradition, I hope you have a happy celebration.
0:29.9	Right now as you're hearing this, probably if it's on that Tuesday, I am sitting around
0:34.6	with my kids in a Christmas tree in my wife and our whole family of open gifts.
0:39.4	I hope you're doing something similar to that if that's what you celebrate.
0:42.6	Speaking of my family and my wife, we have a very special guest today.
0:46.6	Now those of you who are original, Ryder Die from day one with pod devotees will recognize
0:55.2	the voice and the person about to introduce.
0:57.6	Because this interview we recorded back in May, I want to say, I think it was May.
1:03.4	My wife, Kate Shaw, and here's the thinking.
1:07.8	When we started this podcast, we were getting like, you know, maybe like 50,000 downloads
1:16.0	in episodes, something like that.
1:18.0	Now we're up to like 200,000 downloads in episode.
1:20.7	The audience of this thing has really radically expanded in the day since we first put this
1:24.6	interview out.
1:25.6	A lot of you I think who probably have not made your way through our whole archives have
1:29.2	not binge the entire library of interviews that we have on with pod.
1:34.2	This was really one of my favorite conversations.
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