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Notes from America with Kai Wright

Revisiting Caught: 'They Look at Me Like a Menace'

Notes from America with Kai Wright

WNYC Studios

News Commentary, Politics, History, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In this second installment of our presentation of Caught, then-16-year-old Z grapples with a reality that incarcerated youth with mental health needs face everyday: support comes at a cost. Reporter Jared Marcelle continues to follow his journey through the criminal justice system and juvenile justice lawyer and poet Dwayne Betts sheds light on a vicious catch-22. Caught: The Lives of Juvenile Justice is hosted by Kai Wright and supported, in part, by the Anne Levy Fund, Margaret Neubart Foundation, the John and Gwen Smart Family Foundation, and the Economic Hardship Reporting Project. 'They Look at Me Like a Menace' was originally published on March 14, 2018. Listen to more episodes here.

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0:00.0

Hey there this is Kai. What you're about to hear is the second installment in a three-part

0:06.0

series which is to say it'll make a ton more sense if you back up and listen to the

0:11.4

episode in your feed just before this one.

0:14.0

The series is pulled from a podcast that we made a couple years ago called Caught.

0:19.1

It's about the ways in which young people who do in fact need help, instead get trapped inside

0:25.9

courts and jails and prisons. Given the focus on policing right now and on how to

0:32.1

fix or really just get rid of the criminal justice system as we know it altogether,

0:36.6

we decided to revisit one of the stories we told and caught.

0:40.9

It's the story of one young man and a journey through the story of one young man and a journey through the system that

0:45.0

began in grade school. In the previous episode we left him as a teenager inside a

0:50.6

juvenile detention center in Queens and we pick up the story from there.

0:54.0

I'm Kywright this is the United States of anxiety and a special presentation of caught. Like, USA, USA,

1:05.0

USA, USA,

1:07.0

And F-F-A! Oh,

1:08.0

H-F-H-P-P-N-P-N-P-N! That's how we get. That we get.

1:14.0

And we get.

1:16.0

You got the punching bag right here.

1:20.0

Yeah, it got that right there.

1:22.0

That's how to get rid of my anger. That's Z. We met him in episode

1:26.4

one inside a juvenile detention center. I just punched out of time like, yeah that's how to get rid of it.

1:34.0

He's still inside, and he's frustrated.

1:37.0

It'd be hard for any teenager to be stuck in one of the most controlled environments

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