Welcome to the Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast Reverb, a conversation designed to help leaders go even further faster by digging deeper into this month's episode.

I'm your host, Susie Gray.

Last week, Andy had a fascinating conversation with Dr. Sharon Bergwist about stress, not just how to avoid it, but how the right kind, the good kind of

stress, can actually fuel our growth. There's one part of that conversation and her book

in general that was so fascinating and I really want to dig deeper on. And that's the role that

stress plays in our physical health. From food diversity to exercise, there's so many ways to leverage good stress to live a longer,

healthier, and happier life, but it doesn't always feel that that's easy to accomplish

since those things take time and intentionality.

Andy, there's so much in that book that was actionable and practical, and I just feel like we all left with so much to do and think about.

I told Sandra, I said, of all the guests we've had on the podcast, I can't think of anyone

I've interviewed that left me with more things to do that I can't quit thinking about,

that I implemented immediately because of the template that she gave us as it

relates to stress and our success, stress and our health, stress and everything.

Sandra and I, you know, we've been working out, we've worked out with a trainer for years.

Then our trainer moved, but still sends us stuff to do.

Workouts? Yeah, I mean,

she just moved an hour away. But, but, you know, one of the things she told us forever is you have to

rest one minute between every single exercise. And we do high impact training. And but I don't. I'm like,

no, I've got, I want to get this done. Let's be efficient. I give myself so much credit for even doing it. Right. But after listening to Dr. Berkowitz, that minute became maybe the most important minute or the most important minutes in my exercise routine. And that's just one example. So if you're listening to this and you didn't listen, if you didn't hear that interview, you really need to go back.

But it really was profound at multiple levels.

In terms of work, routine, exercise routine, food routine, everything.

Before we started, you said it impacted things you and Jason are doing what.

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