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🗓️ 4 October 2025
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What if revenge was an addiction and forgiveness the cure? Dr. Phil and Dr. James Kimmel Jr. reveal the neuroscience that proves it.
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| 0:00.0 | These feelings of revenge, getting even retribution, generally would categorize that as emotional, |
| 0:09.3 | psychological, and behavioral, because it's a feeling, and it's a feeling that we often act on, |
| 0:18.0 | certainly want to act on. It's an impulse, It's strong. And it is timeless. I mean, |
| 0:23.6 | this is historical. Think of all the old sayings. If you're out for revenge, you go to dig a |
| 0:28.5 | grave, dig to. People think of it as psychological, as emotions. But what you're talking about, |
| 0:36.7 | and you have rock, solid evidence, and I'm so |
| 0:41.5 | happy to talk about this, people need to understand this involves the brain just as powerfully |
| 0:50.8 | as if they're addicted to drugs. That is correct. |
| 0:55.1 | Brain scans now show and have revealed over the last 10 years and maybe a little longer |
| 1:01.0 | that when you have a grievance, that is to say a perception, when you feel that you've |
| 1:07.9 | been wronged, you've been mistreated, you've been insulted, shamed, humiliated, any of those feelings that arise in anger, and those could be political grievances, a grievances with your significant other in your life, with your family, with your kids, with your boss at work, with your neighbors, all of these things, |
| 1:30.4 | all funnel into one set of neurocircuitary. And what occurs is this grievance that I've just |
| 1:38.7 | described, that's painful for you. And that activates the pain network inside your brain and that area is called |
| 1:48.0 | the anterior insula. So there's real pain involved. Psychological pain is significant and |
| 1:54.3 | potentially more than physical pains that you might feel. The brain doesn't want this pain. |
| 2:03.8 | It wants the pain to stop. It wants pleasure to cover it up. And so what we end up with is that once the bearing registers this pain, |
| 2:11.8 | it activates the neural addiction and reward circuitry, the pleasure circuitry of the brain, just the same |
| 2:20.4 | way that for a somebody, a substance user, who sees a place where they've been taking substances |
| 2:28.1 | or feels stress and that craving comes on to use alcohol or drugs, for somebody who has a grievance, this activates, |
| 2:37.8 | but the craving that we get is not for alcohol or drugs. It is for revenge. That is to say, |
| 2:45.2 | punishing the person who caused us pain or their proxies. It doesn't have to be the exact person that wronged you. |
| 2:55.1 | You may seek revenge, and lots of people do, and we see it in society all the time, against |
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