Okay. We're live. We are live with the Reverend Calvin Robinson.

Excellent. Thank you for having me on here. Thank you for taking such a ridiculously long trip just

to get here. No, it's fine. It was a long journey, but it's good to be here. Yeah, you're a tall man

too. Now I see why you can't sit in an ordinary seat. How tall are you? About six five, I think,

but that's not counting the hair, which is cheating a little bit. Yeah, it's great to have you.

How wrecked are you at this point? I was still on the UK time. Let's just put it that way.

I just went by the end of my trip. I'll be switching to American time and I'll be leaving again.

I'll be watching TV tomorrow in Europe last week or two weeks ago. Yeah. And I was there for

that. I was in Ukraine. So it was about five days and at no point did I get accustomed to it.

No, I said to myself, I'm so exhausted. I'll just wait till the night or fall asleep and then

I'll be reset. Do you find that the older you get the longer the jet lag lost as well?

Yeah, that's a good question. Jet lag is funny because I find, especially when I make the trip

to Australia where the difference is so pronounced, I feel emotional. It's almost like I can't

trust my emotions. It's like being drunk, isn't it? When you're that tired. Yeah.

It's great to have you. How did you talk go and kind of get lost? Oh, it was wonderful. The best

bit for me is after the talk when you get to meet and greet people, there will also wholesome and

lovely and kind and compassionate and just lots of people saying hello. There are lots of different

reasons supporting some of the work I've done previously, but also encouraging and praying.

I enjoyed it. And you run, forgive me, I don't know much about you except for that excellent

speech you gave at Oxford Union. Yes. But you have a television show. I do. Saturdays at 7pm on

GB news. We've just moved from Sundays at 3pm. When I first launched, they said, you can have

a religious show, Calvin. How about Sunday at 10am? I was like, yeah, do you know where my audience

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