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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6 • 252 Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Brexit may be Done but it’s about to rise from the grave as we get closer to Dec 31. The IfG’s Brexit Team convene to look ahead to a tumultuous autumn. Are the EU:UK negotiations really going as badly as it seems? What’s the very last moment when a deal could be struck? Are cash-strapped, COVID-battered businesses in any shape to deal with a new customs regime, let alone No Deal? And what’s actually going to change for UK citizens on Jan 1, 2021? “Businesses are faced with one big difficulty which is, what exactly are the preparing for?” – Joe Marshall “The EU always wanted a deal with the UK but they were never prepared to offer Britain a better deal than, say, South Korea.” – Georgina Wright Presented by Hannah White with Georgina Wright, Joe Marshall and Maddy Thimont-Jack. Audio production by Alex Rees See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government.
0:14.6	I'm Hannah White, Deputy Director of the Institute filling in his chair for another week.
0:18.7	Remember Brexit? All those late-night meaningful votes,
0:22.2	all those ministerial resignations, all those bust-ups with the EU. We're not meant to use
0:26.6	the B-word anymore. At least the government would prefer us not to. Because after Boris Johnson
0:31.1	won the 2019 general election, with a slogan to get Brexit done, the government would like
0:36.0	us to think that, well, it got Brexit done. But it
0:39.1	hasn't. Not yet. And with the UK scheduled to leave the transition period on December 31st this year,
0:44.5	there's still an awful lot to do. So, to look ahead, we're going to talk today about the final
0:49.8	few months of Brexit negotiations with the EU. We're going to think about the Brexit bill still to be
0:54.7	voted on in Westminster and to discuss what will actually change for all our lives this year.
0:59.1	And to discuss all this, I've brought together the IFG's all-star Brexit team of Maddie Thinjik,
1:04.1	Georgina Wright and Joe Marshall. Hi, everyone. Hi, Anna. Hi, Hannah. Let's begin with the state of
1:09.3	the Brexit talks. The UK and the EU are still thrashing out the terms of their future relationships.
1:14.2	But progress, if you believe the briefings and statements for Michel Barnier, the EU's chief negotiator, and David Frost, his UK counterpart, is slow or even stalled.
1:23.6	Georgie, is it as bad as we're hearing?
1:25.9	I'd say yes and no. I mean, for starters, only those
1:29.1	really at the heart of the Brexit negotiations know what is really going on. I mean, if you
1:34.2	consider how long trade negotiations usually last, so anything between six months to six years,
1:40.0	we are sort of exactly where we should be. The problem here, of course, is twofold. A, it's a very
1:45.9	complex negotiation. It's a, you know, it's about a lot more than just trade. And it's the first
1:51.7	time that we're seeing a negotiation where we're going to increase barriers to trade at the end
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