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Explain It to Me

Reshaping America’s cities

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Vox policy reporter Jerusalem Demsas talks with the Atlantic’s Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) about how the future of remote work could reshape America’s cities, upend US labor markets, and cause fundamental shifts in where people live. Derek and Jerusalem discuss how it would take only a small percentage of remote workers to impact the urban geography of the US — with complicated implications for electoral politics and the climate. References: Jerusalem's Q&A with housing economist Enrico Moretti on the future of remote work: Remote work is overrated. America’s supercities are coming back. Superstar Cities Are in Trouble [The Atlantic] How America Lost Its Mojo [The Atlantic] The Coronavirus is Creating a Huge, Successful Experiment in Working From Home [The Atlantic] Where Americans Are Moving [Bloomberg] Could a Heartland visa help struggling regions? [Economic Innovation Group] Host: Jerusalem Demsas (@jerusalemdemsas), policy reporter, Vox Credits: Sofi LaLonde, producer & engineer Libby Nelson, editorial adviser Amber Hall, deputy editorial director of talk podcasts Sign up for The Weeds newsletter each Friday: vox.com/weedsletter Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a donation to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Avatar film franchise is kind of weird.

0:05.1

On the one hand, the original is one of the most successful films of all time.

0:10.4

But on the other hand, the blue people that Avatar font, all of it feels like a big joke.

0:17.2

But if it's so meaningless and has had no impact, how are we still able to make jokes

0:23.7

about it?

0:24.7

Upon the sequel's release, a case for Avatar, this week on Into It, Vultures Pop Culture

0:31.9

Podcast.

0:34.4

Hello and welcome back to the weeds on the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:53.1

My name is Jerusalem Demsys and I'm joined today by the Atlantic's Derek Thompson.

0:56.9

Derek is a fantastic writer who I've been following for years.

0:59.6

He covers economics, technology, the media, and over the pandemic, he's done a lot of thinking,

1:04.9

reporting and writing on the rise of remote work and how he thinks it's going to impact

1:09.7

the economy.

1:10.7

A lot of people have been talking about remote work, about whether it's going to be persistent.

1:14.7

But today I'm interested in diving into what happens if it is persistent to the urban

1:18.8

geography of the United States.

1:20.6

If a much larger proportion of the workforce goes remote, how does that affect where people

1:24.4

live, local politics, the climate?

1:27.2

Derek, welcome to the show.

1:28.7

It is great to be here.

1:29.7

Thank you so much for having me.

1:30.8

So before we just dive into all the changes that we've seen, I think it's worth taking

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