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Intelligence Squared

Resetting the Conversation on Race, with Coleman Hughes and Kenan Malik

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

Arts, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2023

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Does the conversation on race need a reset? That is the question that Coleman Hughes and Kenan Malik explored when they came to Intelligence Squared in January 2022. Hughes is an acclaimed American writer and host of the award-winning podcast Conversations with Coleman. In 2019 at the age of 23 he testified before Congress against reparations for slavery and has roundly criticised the work of other Black writers on race such as Ibram X. Kendi and Robin DiAngelo. In his view, their brand of anti-racism encourages a sense of victimhood among Black Americans and sows division between different racial groups. Malik is a British author and broadcaster, whose new book Not So Black and White explores the history of the idea of race and invites us to challenge many of the assumptions behind today’s culture wars. If you would like to support Coleman Hughes and his work, you can do so at colemanhughes.org. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, it's Kamala Ahmed here, and I'm here to tell you about energised, the brand

0:08.6

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0:14.3

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the next two decades, and increase that will cause irreversible damage to our planet.

0:29.5

But is there still hope?

0:33.1

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0:38.3

And that's where energised comes in.

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0:46.6

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0:55.2

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1:26.2

I'm Connor Boyle.

1:27.2

Coming up, we'll be hearing from Ken and Malik and Coleman Hughes for a thought-provoking

1:31.4

discussion around race and equality.

1:33.8

They'll be discussing how that conversation is evolving in 2023 and Malik's new book

1:38.9

on the subject, not so black and white.

1:47.7

Hosting today's discussion is Coleman Hughes.

1:50.3

He's host of conversations with Coleman, which you should all go and check out.

1:54.3

He's an acclaimed opinion columnist who specialises on issues of race, public policy and applied

1:59.4

ethics.

2:00.4

Joining Coleman today is Ken and Malik, whose new book, not so black and white, explores

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