Welcome to the Psychology Podcast, where we give you insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity.

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, and in each episode I have a conversation with a guest

who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater understanding of yourself, others,

and the world we live in.

Hopefully we'll also provide a glimpse into human possibility.

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Hey Todd Kachten, thanks for coming on my show.

You are a professor, psychologist, public speaker, and family man.

You recently wrote the book The public speaker and family man.

You recently wrote the book,

The Upside of your Dark Side,

Why Being your whole self, not just your, quote,

good self, drive success and fulfillment,

and you wrote it with Dr. Robert Biswas

Deener and something else I noticed in your bio Todd is that you say you say the

things other people want to but are afraid to and I think that segues nicely into kind of the main

thesis of your book that we need to achieve wholeness.

One of the problems in particularly in American culture is we have this cheerfulness, happiness, optimism culture that prevents people from accessing information that they kind of know already that negative emotions are relatively

useful. There are sides of our personality that are not socially desirable to talk about. We don't talk about our

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