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Hey there, strict scrutiny listeners. This is Melissa Murray and I have a really special

podcast for you all. A couple of weeks ago, I sat down with the ACLU's Emerson Sykes to tape

an episode of their podcast at Liberty. And this podcast was focused on one of my favorite

Supreme Court cases of all time, 1967's Loving vs. Virginia, which as many of you know, was the

case that struck down bands on interracial marriage across the United States. Emerson and I sat

down as part of a larger conversation sparked by the 1619 project, which was launched by journalist

Nicole Hannah Jones to consider the vestiges and implications of slavery on the history of the

United States and its future. So when Emerson and I sat down, we were thinking specifically about

the role that marriage has played in fostering racial hierarchies throughout the United States over time.

And what marriage might mean going forward for racial progress and racial justice.

So I hope you enjoy this. We are featuring this as a strict scrutiny podcast in conjunction with

at Liberty, the ACLU's podcast. And we are really grateful to Emerson and Noah Yacote for their

help producing this and for bringing it to you all. Thanks so much.

From the ACLU, this is at Liberty. I'm Emerson Sykes, a staff attorney here at the ACLU and your host.

This week, we're airing a special conversation we recorded recently in front of a live audience

about the landmark ACLU case Loving vs. Virginia, which struck down bands on interracial marriage.

The discussion took place at the Brooklyn Public Library as part of an event titled

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