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U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments

Republic of Hungary v. Simon

U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments

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National, Government & Organizations

4.6640 Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2024

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

A case in which the Court held that the expropriation exception to the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act applies in cases involving seized money and that the plaintiffs must establish a clear trace between expropriated property (or the proceeds from its sale) and property present in the United States in connection with commercial activity.

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0:00.0

We will hear argument this morning in case 23-867, Hungary v. Simon.

0:05.7

Mr. Glasgow.

0:08.1

Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court,

0:11.2

Hungary and its national railway, MOV, are immune from suit under the Foreign Sovereign

0:15.2

Immunities Act unless the expropriation exception applies.

0:19.0

And the key phrase in that exception is exchanged for.

0:21.9

There's no dispute that to exchange means to give one thing in return for another.

0:26.2

Accordingly, domestic courts have jurisdiction over this case only of some present-day

0:30.4

asset having a commercial nexus with the United States was given in return for items taken

0:36.1

from 14 individuals in 1944.

0:39.5

Respondents have not even attempted to make that showing.

0:42.4

Instead, they rest their case on the theory that all fungible assets of Hungary,

0:46.0

its agencies, and its instrumentalities were given in return for those specific items

0:50.5

taken more than six decades before this case was filed.

0:53.8

That's simply inconsistent with ordinary meaning.

0:56.9

And while this case can be decided on text alone, history and context confirm the limited

1:00.9

scope of the expropriation exception.

1:03.6

It arose from congressional opposition to a particular decision of this court, the Sabatino

1:08.1

decision, which concerned identifiable and traceable property.

1:11.8

When Congress enacted the FSIA, it intended to codify the restrictive view of foreign sovereign

1:16.2

immunity, not to work a radical transformation of international law.

1:20.5

But the commingling theory would do just that.

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