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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

[REPLAY] Paul Black and Mike Trigg – How to Build a $100B Money Manager (Capital Allocators, EP.227)

Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Ted Seides – Allocator and Asset Management Expert

Investing, Capitalallocation, Business

4.8 β€’ 806 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 27 October 2025

⏱️ ? minutes

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Summary

Paul Black and Mike Trigg from WCM Investment Management are both past guests on the show who have taken an investment philosophy focused on culture and moat trajectory to turn a once struggling boutique into a $100 billion powerhouse.

Paul came on the show a few years ago when WCM had quietly grown to $25 billion in assets, and Mike joined a year ago to dive into their research process. Their colleague Mike Tian shared another perspective earlier this year when he described applying WCM's moat trajectory discipline to investing in China.

In this continued exploration of WCM, we start with the truly unique facts about the firm's rebirth a decade ago and turn to key features of its success, including embracing change, the importance of culture - alongside some characteristics of toxic cultures, hiring practices, telling the truth, integrating new team members, managing turnover, and transitioning leadership to the next generation.

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Ted Sides, and this is Capital Allocators.

0:10.3

This show is an open exploration of the people and process behind capital allocation.

0:16.3

Through conversations with leaders in the money game,

0:19.1

we learn how these holders of the keys to the

0:21.9

kingdom allocate their time and their capital. You can join our mailing list and access premium

0:27.9

content at capital allocators.com. My guests on today's show are Paul Black and Mike Trigg

0:35.9

from WCM Investment Management. Paul and Mike are both

0:40.1

past guests on the show who have taken an investment philosophy focused on culture and moat trajectory

0:45.7

to turn a once struggling boutique into a $100 billion powerhouse. Paul came on the show a few years

0:52.8

ago when WCM had quietly grown to $25 billion in

0:56.6

assets, and Mike joined a year ago to dive into their research process. Their colleague Mike

1:02.1

Tien shared another perspective earlier this year when he described applying WCM's moat trajectory

1:08.2

discipline to investing in China. In this continued exploration of WCM, moat trajectory discipline to investing in China.

1:17.2

In this continued exploration of WCM, we start with the truly unique facts about the firm's rebirth a decade ago and turn to key features of its success, including embracing change,

1:23.4

the importance of culture, alongside some characteristics of toxic cultures, hiring practices,

1:30.0

telling the truth, integrating new team members, managing turnover, and transitioning leadership

1:36.1

to the next generation.

1:38.7

Please enjoy this fascinating conversation about how to build a hundred billion dollar money manager with

1:45.5

Paul Black and Mike Trigg from WCM.

1:50.4

Paul, Mike, great to see you guys.

1:52.6

Great to see you.

1:53.8

Thanks, Ted.

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