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That's Indy.com slash P-O-D-K-A-T-Z-5. Terms and conditions apply. secret but you're not the only one feature hidden financial fears with a blast of sun now your

healing has begun it's bad with money with Gabe S done hello and welcome to bad with

money a show about finances and feelings where we don't talk down to you. I'm your host Gabe S. Dunn.

And today the feeling is bad. Ben Sheehan, do you want to tell my audience who you are and what you do?

Sure. I'm Ben Sheehan. I am an author and a producer and content creator. And I spend a lot of my time

trying to demystify the federal government. God's work.

So I wanted to do an episode about Project 2025 because it keeps getting talked about and as a

casual consumer of the politics, we're not really casual. It's thrust upon me. Can you break down

what this is? Because I keep seeing so many things.

And I think someone like one of our fans wrote in and was like, what is a memeable thing that I can post about this to try to get the word out?

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